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Madeleine McCann - Scotland Yard back in Portugal

by Brendan de Beer, in News · 24-01-2013 09:26:00 · 57 Comments

A team of Scotland Yard investigators appointed to investigate the disappearance of British toddler Madeleine McCann was in Portugal this week to exchange information with its Portuguese counterparts at the Polícia Judiciária (PJ).

Madeleine McCann - Scotland Yard back in Portugal

The British inspectors arrived in Oporto on Monday where they reportedly discussed the current status of the investigation.
Operation Grange, the name of the investigative review into the case, commenced in May 2011, but only started in Portugal last winter.
At the time, it was decided the Oporto-branch of the PJ, led by Helena Monteiro, would be the best option to liaise with Scotland Yard.
Previously, the case had been handed to the PJ in Portimão, then in Faro, and later in Lisbon.
In the UK, a murder team within the Homicide and Serious Crime Command was tasked to conduct the review and is led by Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood. Estimates are the review has cost British taxpayers close to 2.5 million euros.
Work of the team involves close collaboration with a senior investigating officer from the PJ and detectives have been to Portugal several times.
Throughout the course of the review officers have been in close contact with the McCann family who have been assigned a Family Liaison Officer.
The review team say they are in a unique position in that their task is to compile and review material from three separate strands - the Portuguese investigation, inquiries by UK law enforcement agencies, and the work of private investigators/agencies.
Officers have been going through that material which they believe amounts to around 40,000 pieces of information equating to approximately 100,000 pages.
The objective of the review team is to work with the Portuguese authorities with a view to having the case, which has remained closed since 2008, re-opened in due course, Scotland Yard said.
“From the outset we have approached this review with a completely open mind, placing Madeleine McCann at the heart of everything we do. We are working on the basis of two possibilities here. One is that Madeleine is still alive; and the second that she is sadly dead”, DCI Andy Redwood said last year.
Meanwhile, the defamation case the McCann family launched against former PJ inspector Gonçalo Amaral was this week reportedly suspended by a Lisbon court.
Kate and Gerry McCann have sued Amaral for 1.2 million euros in damages, but reports by the Lusa News Agency stated this week the case has been put on hold due to an apparent attempt by the McCanns to reach an out-of-court settlement.
The case centres around the publication of a best-selling book by Amaral, The Truth of the Lie, which was later transformed into a television documentary shown on national television.
In a related story, it was reported this week that more than 1.2 million euros was made from Kate McCann’s book about her missing daughter.
“Income from the book has significantly improved the position”, of the funds’ accounts, its directors said this week, who added: “This will continue as a result of publication in other countries and the release of the paperback.”
Madeleine’s Fund climbed to around 2.5 million euros in the immediate months after her disappearance in May 2007, but in 2009, Gerry McCann told The Portugal News, “We are in danger of running out of money by the end of the year.”
While the Fund has admitted it has scaled back following UK Prime Minister David Cameron’s creation of Operation Grange, it revealed that it still pays for “a 24-hour, 7 day a week telephone line to receive and capture information from around the world which may assist the investigation while also supporting a small investigation team, including a Portuguese speaker to help with the above and with campaign activities.”

* Story updated 28 January at 11:02

Comments

The McCanns have failed to reach a settlement with Dr Amaral, so the full libel case can now go ahead. Am I alone in doubting that it will ?
by PeterMac from Other on 19-02-2013 01:49:00
"highly trained cadaver dog alerted to the last pkace the child was seen, very suspicious - - -by james from Madeira" And the last person to see her alive ? Gerry. Oldfield was very quick to put on paper that he had not seen her during his "check".
by PeterMac from Other on 09-02-2013 04:11:00
highly trained cadaver dog alerted to the last pkace the child was seen, very suspicious
by james from Madeira on 08-02-2013 07:37:00
Cat. Just to remind you. 4th May Gerry - I went in through the front door. 10th May - I went in through the patio door. 4th May Kate - The curtains were wide open. 4 years later on TV - the curtains were tight closed. (Kate has never put that in a police statement anytime over the last 5 years. Why not ?) 3rd May the shutters were broken and the door hanging open. 4th May, shutters were open. 2010, on their own website - Kate - shutters were a red herring, not the point of entry. ( In which case what was ?) There are pages of examples all taken from their own statements and the book. We don't need to invent things. They did quite enough themselves.
"If you tell the truth you don't have to remember what you said." Mark Twain.
by PeterMac from Other on 07-02-2013 03:39:00
"There is NO EVIDENCE that any harm came to Madeleine McCann in the apartment or by the hand of her family . . ."by Cat from Other" To do this you have to totally dismiss the alerts by the dogs,which marked in the apartment and on the clothes and belongings of the McCanns AND NOWHERE ELSE - and add to that the strange behaviour of the parents who gave each false information to the police right from the start. Look at the statements 4th and 10th May and compare them. Why would parents not want to help the police, by telling the truth ?
by PeterMac from Other on 06-02-2013 05:31:00
There is NO EVIDENCE that any harm came to Madeleine McCann in the apartment or by the hand of her family. Read the Official Files and not internet gossip and old, wrong, newspaper reports.
Seems as though tunnel vision was in operation by some officials down there imo.
by Cat from Other on 04-02-2013 12:25:00
but they are looking for her, the real proof is what Scotland Yard with Oporto PJ are doing, based on this: Madeleine McCann can still be found alive.

by anonymous from Lisbon on 04-02-2013 09:20:00
To PeterMac

Gerry McCann did not give unconditional support to libel. He gave unconditional support to free speech based on truth making clear that those who were not basing their claims on truth should not be permitted to get away with lies. Perhaps if your master, Bennett, didn't misquote people you would realise that.

And it is important to remember that Bennett is not on trial this week for anything to do with the McCanns. He is in the dock for contempt of court. He is charged with having lied to the High Court and is being dealt with for that contempt.
by Tigerloaf from UK on 03-02-2013 09:12:00
If bennett supports free speech then why is it that anyone who dares join his forum, or any other he is a member of, and breathes one word of disagreement with him, is promptly banned? Is he afraid of people pointing out the errors in his work? Why will he not engage in a fair and open discussion with those who do not see his point of view?
by Vee8 from UK on 03-02-2013 08:54:00
Not trying to be mean? Oh really. Sounds very mean to me.
There is no proof that Madeleine is dead, so I keep on hoping. That is what life is all about. Fortunately most of us know what hope feels like.
by Eleanor from Other on 03-02-2013 08:42:00
dilly, shut up, show respect, nasty commentsd like yours are neither needed nor welcome. I wonder how do you react if it happen with you.

Perhaps your prefer to be accused of something you never did then doing everything in your power to have your offspring back safe and sound with you.

shame on you dilly.

I repeat again:

MADELEINE McCANN IS A REAL, LIVING, FINDABLE CHILD.

the cases mentioned above proves it.
by anonymous from Lisbon on 03-02-2013 07:59:00
Why did gerry say they support free speech when they do everything in their power to destroy people who question them? . . .by Mel from Other " Exactly. Next week is the trial against Tony Bennett, to commit him to prison for daring to think and say something different from the McCann's official line. The McCann's legal costs of taking him to court are so far more than a quarter of a million pounds. They are clearly trying to destroy him. This is nothing to do with finding Madeleine. It never has been.
by PeterMac from Other on 01-02-2013 08:01:00
If the parents believe Madeleine is "alive and findable", why aren't they looking for her? They still ask for public donations but ceased to employ private investigators.

One private investigator, halligen, scammed them out of £500,000 but they haven't sued him. Why not? They sued 27 other people and organisations who disbelieve them.

Twitter is a mine of information and full of people who intimidate, threaten and insult those who disbelieve the abduction story. Why did gerry say they support free speech when they do everything in their power to destroy people who question them?

Only those who haven't dug deeper think this is about an absent child, most other people know it's about the parents dictating what people should believe and punishing those who don't believe everything they're told. Even the media are too frightened to comment.
by Mel from Other on 31-01-2013 01:05:00
When in doubt, think of murder. exactl, esoecua,ky if there is no evidence if abduction which there is not in this case at all but there is evidence of a dead body
by Amanda from Madeira on 29-01-2013 09:32:00
Does anyone else feel for Robert Murrat and his family? His life and house were turned upside down. He was only trying to help. The police turned his villa apart. I often wonder if his life was ever the same again or what effect it all had on his small children.
I was surprised when this happened how many times it was said that we all leave our children alone. Never once did I hear a warning to parents that even if your kids don't get abducted it is just not safe to leave them alone whether on holiday or at home. CHILDREN need protecting at all times when they are so young. It would have been a different story if the nanny had left them.
I hope they find her and get her back alive.
by amanda frost from UK on 29-01-2013 03:25:00
Madeleine McCann may indeed be a real, living, findable child anonymous from Lisbon and, as you quite rightly point out, the cases of Shawn Hornbeck, Jaycee Duggard, Natascha Kampusch do go some way to prove some missing children can be successfully found and rescued many years later. However, one of the fundamental facts to be determined in a missing person investigation is the reason why the subject has disappeared. In cases where the circumstances are suspicious or are unexplained, use the maxim:

IF IN DOUBT, THINK MURDER

Failure to apply such thinking in past cases has led to the loss of valuable investigative opportunities. This can ultimately result in failure to trace the missing person or to establish sufficient evidence to convict a perpetrator.

ACPO (2010) Guidance on the Management, Recording and Investigation of Missing Persons

http://www.npia.police.uk/en/17187.htm

If the police wish to sucessfully trace a missing person or to establish sufficient evidence to convict a perpetrator then surely they must keep an 'open mind' as to how and why the subject has disappeared, surely?
by reseasonedopinion from UK on 29-01-2013 01:51:00
To by June Lover from Algarve on 28-01-2013 04:54:00 - why should I give my "moral support" to a couple that has left three children with a combined age of five, all alone, five nights in a roll? Madeleine isn't the only victim of this circus, Sean and Amelie are victims too. I only have a " place in" my "heart" for the children. Enough said.
by Martha from Lisbon on 29-01-2013 08:39:00
". . .Once it’s established that he/she hasn’t just wandered off (unlikely in Maddie’s case as she was locked in an apartment),. . . JUNE, Have you read any of the papers, the statements, the evidence ? The McCanns ADMIT that they left the apartment UNLOCKED. Every night. So that the children could escape in case of Fire. (Honestly I'm not making this up ! ) Their first versions, about the broken shutters and front door hanging open was simply not true, and they changed the story the following day. But they have still trapped themselves into a window of opportunity to - enter, sedate 3 children, select one, and exit - within two minutes. It is that bit which is so difficult for people to accept.
by PeterMac from Other on 29-01-2013 07:27:00
Madeleine McCann is a real, living, findable child.

the cases of Shawn Hornbeck, Jaycee Duggard, Natascha Kampusch proves it.
by anonymous from Lisbon on 28-01-2013 03:32:00


No they don't. Where is your evidence that she is alive?
by dilly from Porto on 28-01-2013 08:47:00
As a parent, I can only imagine what the McCanns are feeling at this very moment and I hope I never will but the fact remains....they left their kids unsupervised....as hard as this may for them, they did commit a crime and that crime is neglect whether it was intentional or not. If it was me that left my kid alone at home unsupervised, my child would have been taken away...no questions asked. In this case, the McCanns got away with it but unfortunately they did pay the ultimate price....they lost one of their children.....what I don't understand is why they still have the other two kids with them.....I am not trying to be mean but where is children's services in all this? I know that they love their children but any other parent that would have done what they did, they would be arrested for neglect....Don't get me wrong...I do hope they find Madelaine alive....I just don't understand the justice in all of this.....if Madelaine's parents didn't leave their kids unsupervised, this wouldn't have happened in the first place....something to think about
by concerned parent from Other on 28-01-2013 07:10:00
When a toddler goes missing the alarm is raised pdq. Once it’s established that he/she hasn’t just wandered off (unlikely in Maddie’s case as she was locked in an apartment), the natural assumption is that the child has been ‘removed’. Call this what you like... but it is generally known as abduction.
It is almost 6 years since her mysterious disappearance, and I am heartened by the fact that this case is still generating debate and discussion, and that hopefully the search is still alive.
The McCanns have been much criticised for the way they have tried to promote their cause. They’ve been disbelieved, accused, arrested, censured by the press, condemned by the public..... and all because they want their little girl back.
Whatever your thoughts, whatever your opinions, I hope you can find a place in your hearts for Kate and Gerry. They need your moral support, not your condemnation.
by June Lover from Algarve on 28-01-2013 04:54:00
Those who are truly searching for this innocent chiold knows that she was truly abducted, her parents are totally innocent, they are looking for a living, findable Madeleine McCann.

Madeleine McCann is a real, living, findable child.

the cases of Shawn Hornbeck, Jaycee Duggard, Natascha Kampusch proves it.
by anonymous from Lisbon on 28-01-2013 03:32:00
June Lover, I'm sure the McCanns did no intentionally harm Madeleine, but have you considered the possibility of a tragic accident, one that occurred while the parents where absent...? Madeleine and the twins were left unsupervised (or not suitably supervised) every single night of the holiday! If the checks were every 30 minutes, which I do not believe, I think they never checked at all, even so, 30 minutes is plenty of time for all sorts of acidents to happen to a child. What if they came back to the apartment and found a seriously injured or alredy dead Madeleine? What if they panicked and were overcome with the fear of neglect charges being brought against them, agravated neglect, because it resulted in the death of a child. Can you imagine them, seeing their lives destroyed, their reputations, their careers, maybe loosing custody of the twins, the hunting of the blood thirsty british media...?

And, for the record, in Portugal, Madeleine's disappearance was the most publicised case of a missing child ever! It was on all portuguese tv channels on that same night, and in all the papers the next morning!
by Roseanne from Lisbon on 28-01-2013 12:43:00
". . . I still think this crime was mishandled by the authorities from the outset. In England the abduction of a child would have been flagged up and publicised on every News bulletin and in every newspaper within hours.... enlisting the immediate help of the general public who are the eyes and ears in any police investigation. . . .by June Lover from Algarve on 27-01-2013 04:16:00"
"The only problem with this is that there was no evidence of an abduction. The PJ had a report of a missing child. No point of entry or exit, no method of sedating three children, no forensic traces, no sound - father was just outside, remember - and a window of opportunity to get in, sedate, select, pick up, and exit, of less than two minutes, even on the parent's own timings. Can you understand why the PJ, and many others, are slightly sceptical about the original story ?
by PeterMac from Other on 28-01-2013 10:29:00 "


Quite so, Mr. PeterMac! Remember the McCanns very first PR guy, Alex Woofall from Bell Pottiger? He told the media that he had not heard any suggestion of an abduction mentioned by the parents!
From The Times:

"Mr Woofall says that he heard no suggestion in the early days that the girl had been snatched. 'Certainly I did not hear any discussion that this could be a paedophile or an aggravated robbery. All the time I was around it was whether she could have wandered off and had an accident or somebody had actually taken her in, perhaps not with ill-intent. "

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.pt/2008/08/mr-woofall-heard-no-suggestion-in-early.html
by Roseanne from Lisbon on 28-01-2013 12:25:00
SOCA - Thank you for that clarification and the link. So in his case it would fail the test on at least two counts. No evidence of kidnapping, and no information to assist.
by PeterMac from Other on 28-01-2013 12:14:00
"In England the abduction of a child would have been flagged up and publicised on every News bulletin and in every newspaper within hours.... enlisting the immediate help of the general public who are the eyes and ears in any police investigation." by June Lover from Algarve

Not all cases will result in a CRA being launched.

There are four criteria which must all be met before a CRA is launched:

The child is under the age of 18

There is reasonable belief that the child has been kidnapped or abducted (which includes being taken under the influence of a third party)

There is reasonable belief that the child is in imminent danger of serious harm or death

There is sufficient information available to enable the public to assist the police in locating the child

http://www.soca.gov.uk/about-soca/missing-persons-bureau/child-rescue-alert
by SOCA from UK on 28-01-2013 11:28:00
Why does the article state attempts by both parties to reach a settlement!. From the evidence I have seen last week, it is solely the Mccann party who have asked for an adjournment and are seeking settlement?.

I just want to know whose deceased body was detected in various places in and around the Mccanns apartment (only) by the advanced detection dogs?. Who by all accounts have been 100% correct on more than a couple of very recent cases? Why where they allegedly wrong on this one particular occasion?. If we can just establish why a dead body was detected in the apartment and clothes of the Mccanns surely that will get that out of the way and render unhindered the Finding of Madeleine?
by Danny Bohy from UK on 28-01-2013 10:56:00
". . . I still think this crime was mishandled by the authorities from the outset. In England the abduction of a child would have been flagged up and publicised on every News bulletin and in every newspaper within hours.... enlisting the immediate help of the general public who are the eyes and ears in any police investigation. . . .by June Lover from Algarve on 27-01-2013 04:16:00"
The only problem with this is that there was no evidence of an abduction. The PJ had a report of a missing child. No point of entry or exit, no method of sedating three children, no forensic traces, no sound - father was just outside, remember - and a window of opportunity to get in, sedate, select, pick up, and exit, of less than two minutes, even on the parent's own timings. Can you understand why the PJ, and many others, are slightly sceptical about the original story ?
by PeterMac from Other on 28-01-2013 10:29:00
"Mr. Beer the fact is it was the McCanns who asked the four parties/defendants - TVI, Gonçalo Amaral, Valentim de Carvalho and Guerra & Paz to settle out of court - why do you omit that fact? What's the point when we can easily find the truth?
by AA from Algarve"
Well said, Sir. Meanwhile the papers in England were reporting another "sighting", this time from Brazil in 2008. But the photo turned out to be from the evacuation of Ibiza airport in 2007 ! Who gave the papers that photo, and why at exactly the moment that the libel trial is folding, and Mr Bennett has asked the Court in theEngland to re-consider its position on sending him to prison for believing something the McCanns don't want people to hear ? Like all good illusionists - "don't look over there, look over here !"
by PeterMac from Other on 28-01-2013 09:43:00
You haters are such awful people! There is no evidence against the mccanns, otherwise they would have gone to prison. Who would kill their own daughter anyways and then call police and media? there is way easier options, they could have just said she drowned. I really hope the find Madeleine one day! Good luck to Kate and Gerry!
by Anika from Other on 27-01-2013 10:27:00
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Whats wrong with hating lies deception and injustice? nothing at all, its the best thing to do, try it sometime, might get you somewhere
by June from Madeira on 27-01-2013 09:35:00
As a fellow Brit, my heart goes out to the McCanns.... I genuinely believe they are totally innocent of any skulduggery they have been accused of. Why, in Heaven’s name would they want to bring any harm to their own daughter?
As a Portuguese resident, I understand the outrage that is vented towards them for leaving their children unattended for even a moment. In this country you take your children with you everywhere, even if it means keeping them up ‘til after midnight.
As an onlooker and bystander I still think this crime was mishandled by the authorities from the outset. In England the abduction of a child would have been flagged up and publicised on every News bulletin and in every newspaper within hours.... enlisting the immediate help of the general public who are the eyes and ears in any police investigation. It doesn’t always work..... but it many cases it does and the outcome is a happy one.
Like the previous commenter, I hope with all my heart that Madeleine is in safe hands and one day will be reunited with her loving parents.
by June Lover from Algarve on 27-01-2013 04:16:00
cadaver dog alerts at last place missing person see, end of
by June from Madeira on 27-01-2013 02:14:00
Please be so kind as to update this article: it's the McCanns who are trying to settle out of court. They know that they will lose - one only has to read the Appeals Court decision in favor of Mr Amaral to realize that they have no case. The Supreme court rejected the McCanns' appeal. It is heartening to see that freedom of expression and the right to voice one's opinion is still upheld in this country. It's a pity that the Portugal News is more British than Portuguese, in that aspect: markedly pro-McCann, unable to be objective, you influence your readers like a UK tabloid.
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/01/mccanns-ask-for-extrajudicial-settlement.html
by Anna Real from Algarve on 27-01-2013 11:09:00
You haters are such awful people! There is no evidence against the mccanns, otherwise they would have gone to prison. Who would kill their own daughter anyways and then call police and media? there is way easier options, they could have just said she drowned. I really hope the find Madeleine one day! Good luck to Kate and Gerry!
by Anika from Other on 27-01-2013 10:27:00
Whatever the outcome the McCann's are GUILTY of child neglect, no parent in their right mind would leave children sleeping alone!!!
by Luis Nunes from Algarve on 27-01-2013 09:53:00
If Mr and Mrs McCann had put as much effort into looking after the best interests of their children while their daughter was still in their care as they have done in raising vast sums in an attempt to find her, then perhaps she would not have gone missing in the first place.

This case has, on occasion, been compared to that of Sara Payne, which resulted in changes to UK laws concerning the disclosure of paedophiles locations. Yet Sara would still have been snatched and murdered, because she was at a public pic-nic area, nowhere near her home, where any paedophile from anywhere in the world could have been stalking.

A girl so young should not have been allowed to wander off alone in such a place, just as another should not have been left in an apartment without adult supervision.

Two cases of guilt ridden parents using whatever means possible to draw attention away from the fact that they were negligent in the care of their children.
by RG from Alentejo on 27-01-2013 09:23:00
THIS POOR LITTLE GIRL AND HOW HARD IT IS FOR THE FAMILY GOD BLESS..WHEN SHE FIRST WENT MISSING I GOT A VISION OF LOT S OF GREEN ROOF S DON T ASK ME WHY BECAUSE I DON T NO WHY BUT THEIR IS A SLIGHT CHANCE IT COULD MEAN SOMETHING TO SOMEONE IN PORTUGAL , I HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO PREDICT CERTAIN THING S ALSO HAVE READ TOTAL STRANGER S OF WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT AND SHOCKED THEM ,
by ANGELA from UK on 27-01-2013 02:16:00
"The McCanns are plainly innocent, . . ." Juliette Robinson. * * * Of what, precisely. Neglecting their children for a whole week, which they admit, or trying to get us to believe that an abductor got into the apartment, sedated three children, selected one and then got out again, without leaving any trace, or making any sound - father was right outside, remember - in less than two minutes ?
by PeterMac from Other on 26-01-2013 05:26:00
"Kate and Gerry McCann have sued Amaral for 1.2 million euros in damages, but reports stated this week the case has been put on hold due to apparent attempts by both parties to reach an out-of-court settlement." - Mr. Beer the fact is it was the McCanns who asked the four parties/defendants - TVI, Gonçalo Amaral, Valentim de Carvalho and Guerra & Paz to settle out of court - why do you omit that fact? What's the point when we can easily find the truth?
by AA from Algarve on 26-01-2013 02:31:00
It beggars belief that the nasty comments against the McCanns continue. Or perhaps it doesn't? The worst thing about the internet is that it gives ignorance and plain stupidity a voice!
The McCanns are plainly innocent, and websites should stop permitting morons who believe otherwise to make any further comments. It's like giving a voice to people who think the world is flat! You people should spend some time learning about empirical evidence, how genuine research works, and getting yourselves at least 'somewhat' educated and informed, because your ignorance is dangerous when it condemns the innocent.
In the meantime, I wish Kate and Gerry McCan all the best in their search, and my God, if I were in their position, I don't think that I could stop until I found the answer either.
by Juliette Robinson from Other on 26-01-2013 12:55:00
I despair of the human race whenever I hear the idiotic ramblings of some people who, if they had a brain would be dangerous. It's obvious to a blind beggar that the McCann's are innocent and the Portuguese police and the media from Portugal, UK and others, made up their minds to blame them for their daughter's disappearance and possible death; irrespective of there being absolutely no proof of this whatsoever. One was to make themselves look like they had done their duty and got their 'man', when in fact they did very little to find Madeleine in the early days/weeks/months of her abduction; the other was to sell their papers, with outlandish stories; talk about stretching the truth! My only wish is for these people, and they know who they are, to suffer a similar fate as the McCann's and then they'll know first hand what it really feels like to lose their most precious family member, and then have the authorities come after them although they are innocent of doing them any harm. I take it back-I'd never ever wish it on anyone.
I wish the McCann's all the luck in the world on finding their daughter safe and well and living with a family who wanted and cared for her. They deserve that at the very least.
by Shirl from Other on 26-01-2013 06:56:00
I think Madeleine is still somewhere in Portugal, She is not my child yet I have been and searched every year for years, had she been my daughter, I would never have left the country until every nook and cranny was searched and non stop door to door searches. I feel for Madeleine and Pray for her to be returned safely.
by elaine from UK on 25-01-2013 10:45:00
Yawn, yawn, Police Cadaver dogs do not lie.
by Valerie Window from Algarve on 25-01-2013 10:25:00
It beggars belief that crackpot armchair judges are still even given space to hammer these two parents of Madeleine. Why in heavens name do they think the case had been taken on at such great pains by the U.K. and now possibly Portugal for the 3rd time.....eh? Because she is FINDABLE... hopefully alive, sadly possibly not, but along with the effort, other little ones will also be found, helped, saved, rescued.... And all power to the McCanns for using their grief to make it more difficult for this to happen to another child, another parent. gill scott spain
by gill scott gribler from Other on 25-01-2013 10:00:00
Derek you are three stops short of West Ham!
by Peter from Algarve on 25-01-2013 08:09:00
Can't stand Maddies parents, just wish Maddies mum would give herself up and tell us what really happened to her daughter and stop spending tax payers money on this. Even if she is innocent which I doubt who in their right mind would leave 3 children under the age of 4 by them selves.
by Monica from Lisbon on 25-01-2013 05:58:00
well done Scotland Yard, keep up the good work.

MADELEINE McCANN IS A REAL, LIVING, FINDABLE CHILD.
by anonymous from Lisbon on 25-01-2013 02:57:00
When detectives get around to it they should check the location in Bavaria I gave them. Canvassing the local shops & bars at Marktoberdorf might reveal the couple seen by Anna Stam in May '07 were living there in 2007-8.
It's time to look further than Luz.
by Adrian Cantrill from UK on 25-01-2013 02:08:00
Derek, and who is stopping you from finding her? So far as I see...nobody.
by weissnicht from Other on 25-01-2013 11:24:00
cant believe what i read here,does this paperNOT SUPPORT
MADELEINE MCCANN.oh my, thank got for the internet
and dont forget to mention that theMCCANNS BOTTLED OUT OF THE LIBEL TRIAL.
by chris from UK on 25-01-2013 10:14:00
Someone has to explain how the "abductor" got in, sedated three children, picked up one, turned it round, and exited . . within 1 minute and 20 seconds. If you can't do that - there was no abduction. (These are their timings, not mine.)
by PeterMac from Other on 25-01-2013 10:00:00
the super detective ,madeleine mccann ,lets go back to the1980/s remember--- s, maxell--- c, hogg---s harper ,3 children who went missing over a 3 year period ,ask the police what i told them about them ,then there ---s ,evans,--alison, day,---jason, swift,---j,chapman,---holly, wells,---nicola, payne, over the years etc--nicola payne is still missing ,the police cannot say if they checked the sand pit on the common she walked over its a simple question .then you have to ask the government for the file i told them about terrorist attacks beforehand should still be on record .now you know why i am interested in madeleine ,am i right what have you to lose.give me a chance all the other stories have been wrong derek 02476301146
by derek spring from UK on 25-01-2013 09:28:00
Mel, no, you are not the only one thinking it's all very strange. All 1001 McVersions of it. Starting with the "jemmied shutter" that never was. etc. etc.
by weissnicht from Other on 25-01-2013 07:44:00
dog's don't and cant lie they are trained to do what they do and never fail :( poor Maddie
by jay from UK on 25-01-2013 03:10:00
The 24/7 phoneline they set up goes to an answerphone. I'd have the phone on me constantly. Just saying.
They aren't employing anyone to search for Madeleine and say they've faith in NSY review to find her. Yet they are still asking for donations. What is the money for?
Around 90% of all the donations has so far been spent on litigation, suing people (24 last I heard). Why spend money suing everyone but stop searching for their missing child?
Their old PI ripped them off for half a million pounds but they aren't suing him. They are however suing the police officer who gave them the results of the forensics.
This seems to be all about the couple and nothing to do with trying to find their little girl, who, despite them informing the world on numerous occasions "Madeleine is alive and findable and that they "are leaving no stone unturned", they aren't looking or flipping stones.
Am I the only person who thinks there's something very strange about all this?
by Mel from USA on 24-01-2013 11:49:00
due to the fact i saw madeleine 4 days before she went missing even told a friend it was going to happen,even got her name ,been out to luz 6 times looking for her gave you 2 car reg numbers video of girl ,she even spoke to me asked me if i had come to take her home ,its a long story into ESPas maddie is not the first i told the police about even before they had happen ,so is it possible or not ,how do you get someone at the top to look at it ,the reply from police is its not our job to check the car reg out ,the mccanns own detectives don't waste your time going out there ,so whats going on ,whats a----- got to do with this case as he would have been by the apartment every night fits the photo of man looking for,what about the ruins if dead could she be there,who the girl i saw december 2012 in luz with lady looks like what madeleine would look like now ,plus another car number plate passed it on to police on video 2 girls one with long hair next day girl with pony tail but its not till you look at it its the same girl its the man & woman that gives it away .taken in luz beach area.feb 2010 they say they were going to look at things like this so my file is open to the world to see prove me right or wrong then you might get maddie back ,lets face they are working in the dark they did say the world was square once say no more .
by derek spring from UK on 24-01-2013 11:27:00
Go get a beer Brendan, you and your McCann mates have lost it. Cheers from Portugal.
by AA from Lisbon on 24-01-2013 10:41:00

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